Just heard this today from a large West Coast City IT -related person who are dependent on the department for their network needs. This person wants to do some QA processes on their own portion of the network but IT is reluctant to allow them to do so. Apparently, they don't like anyone looking over their shoulder. Why? Could it be that they don't want anyone to know that they are inept? Overpaid? Until IT can stand eye-to-eye with the executive team and operate with "FULL DISCLOSURE" they deserve to be scrutinized very carefully. No other group (ENRON) can operate in this fashion now can they?